Now in Jamaa you see founders quiet a bit I saw 14 people with them in one persons den I was like whoa! Trading them: Trading for them is hard most of the time sometimes people have founders and they don't even know it. Most of the time they will know it though. Most of the time people want 4 rare longs spikes in the colors they want for their founder in my opinion I would only trade 3 collars and add like a sewing machine to it.
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